“We’re different, right? He’s 17 years in. I’m nine. …

Does a ring change the conversation around his name? Yeah. Should it change it?

No. I think [Harden] should still be looked at as one of the top guards, the top players who ever played this game. But we live in a ring culture.

So, does a ring change the narrative? Sure. Change the narrative to me?

For sure. And same thing with Joel Embiid, right? So, there’s a level of desperation to try to change what our narratives have been .