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A tough season, playing angry, and messaging Michael Owen

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Ollie: They weren't saying: 'Oh no, you aren't good enough. ' It was more the fact that I couldn't focus. Well, that's what they told me anyway.

But I just kind of saw it as… I just went and played more football and just enjoyed it. And I think I kind of saw it as a little bit of a blessing. At that age, you just want to go out and play, have that freedom to express yourself.

So, that's what I went away and did. When I then went into it, I was ready to focus more. Kelly: And when you were at Exeter as well, you went on some loan spells.

I know Weston-super-Mare was quite a big one, wasn't it? Ollie: Yeah, I feel like that was crucial in my development. One of my best friends at the time, Matt Jay, he made his debut at 16 I think.

Obviously, I was very happy for him. He was my best friend, but I was so envious because you want that to be you. But me going out on loan definitely helped me, because I felt like I was then… I'd experienced playing men's football.

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